Murray Harry Scheshko, the gardener’s father and son of Isidore and Celia, was a highly intelligent, active, and energetic young man who came of age at the time of WWII. He was born on 5 June 1921 and can be found on a U.S. Marines muster roll on 11 January 1940. He was 18 years old.
He was a private, and the listing is alphabetical, so he is about #9 up from the bottom.
Also, on 11 January 1940, this is listed on Ancestry for Murray, but again, no record to go with it: NEW YORK NATIONAL GUARD SERVICE CARDS.
Name: Murray H Scheshko Birth Date: 5 Jun 1921 Birth Place: Port Chester, New York Residence Place: New York City, New York Enlistment Age: 18 Enlistment Date: 11 Jan 1940 Enlistment Place: New York City, New York, USA Unit: Co A 1st Mar Bn
U.S. Veterans Affairs Death records show Murray as enlisting on 8 January 1941. But 8 February 1941, a month later and a little over a year after the Marines muster list, he is showing as enlisting in the U.S. Army, Airborne division. What happened between the Marines and the Army? Between 1940 and 1941? I don’t know. And I don’t have a document for this as this is text info on Ancestry.
I’ve never heard of this site before, but they have his army serial number listed (12025969) and mentioned he was Air Corps. For those of you who don’t know, as I did not know, there was no U.S. Air Force before 1947. The air division was part of the U.S. Army.
Murray’s military history must have been extremely interesting. On the one hand, when I was dating the gardener, I was regaled by the gardener and by Murray with stories of how he spent most of his time in the brig for fighting. At one point, I knew how many days he spent, and it was astronomical. On the other hand, he must have spent some time not in the brig because when the gardener was little, his father had a bucketful of military medals, including a Purple Heart. The gardener has rueful recollections of playing with the medals (and possibly cutting up the ribbons) when he was a kid.
What I didn’t know until somewhat recently is that Murray was part of the 353rd Fighter Group that flew bombing missions over occupied Europe. They are considered heroes in England. Murray was not a pilot. He was staff sergeant, an “armourer,” which means that he was in charge of the weapons for the group. There are websites online devoted to the group, and Murray is mentioned in them.
I have also been given some photos of the group with Murray in them.
Murray is standing, on our left.
Murray on our right
Were the brig stories exaggerated? Or was he able to be a hero in between his fights? By way of explanation about the fighting, I will mention that during the time that Murray was stationed in England he experienced a great deal of anti-Semitism which tainted his time with the English.
I am posting a photocopy of a pic of Murray with other soldiers in the U.S. Army in case someone finds this blog post and recognizes someone in the photo.
Murray was a gentleman and a good father, but there were some vestiges of him as a “tough guy” throughout his life. He always dreamed of being an attorney (and loved his copy of Black’s Law Dictionary), but the opportunity didn’t happen for him. Instead, he became Plant Manager and VP of Research and Development for Dr. Denton (yes, the pjs with feet) and Lambknit sweater mill (southwestern Michigan).
After his American military career, instead of going to school or settling down, and before he became a business executive, Murray took one detour. To be continued at some point.
It must be very frustrating not to have him around (I assume) to ask about his time in the Marines or for more details about his time in the air corps. When I think of all the questions I wish I had asked….
I remember Dr. Denton’s!
I can’t wait to read about this “detour!” And will we find out how he ended up in Michigan?
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It’s very frustrating for a lot of reasons. He was such a great guy. So much I would want to ask him today.
Here is some of the early history of the Dr. Denton company. It’s interesting for the old ad you can see pictured. http://colonmuseum.com/doctor-denton/
Yes, I plan to write about those things, but not sure when. I am trying to collect some info first . . . . You know how it goes!
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Yep, I sure do! I will take a look at the link—thanks!
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Good Job Luanne.
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Thanks, Jose!
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His stance in those first two photos really do make him look like a “bruiser”!
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LOL! He was very fit and very goodlooking and, yes, had a bit of a tough air about him.
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He was very handsome! My cousin served over in England and came home with a bride! As I do my own research I’m often confounded with data that doesn’t match. Sometimes it seems like dates are mere suggestions of approximately when things happened! So frustrating.
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You’re right–he was. Even as he aged, he retained his handsomeness. Haha, at least your cousin came home with something of real value ;)!
You’ve got that right about dates. I’ve been struggling with wrong birthdates for immigrants, particularly!
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And spelling! My surname is spelled at least 6 different ways often in the same generation.
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Spelling is way worse than dates. It’s ridiculous! And it makes me wonder how we ever find any of our ancestors!
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This was really interesting Luanne. His change of service branches is intriguing. Do you still have his service metals? Very recently I sent away for and replaced all of my husbands service metals from Vietnam (he did not keep them at the time) If you don’t have them they can be replaced and it might add a clue to your research on him.
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Really?! We do not have them. Do you know how one goes about starting the process of replacing them? Wow, I never even thought of that! Thanks so much, Sharon!
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Go to this web site Luanne and follow the directions. It was an easy process and I think it was free, I don’t remember paying anything. We just got them in 2017. It did take a while, in fact I forgot about it actually. Then one day there they were in the mail. About 10 months start to finish.
https://www.archives.gov/veterans/replace-medals.html
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Thank you!!! Woo, I’m excited!
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Darn darn darn darn. Look at this for air force (they say this includes air corp of the army): “These Services do not accept NOK archival requests. The NOK may purchase a copy of the veteran’s OMPF to determine the awards due and obtain the medals from a commercial source.” The only ones that have to be paid for, I guess. Still, I wonder how much it would cost just to get a list.
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So interesting, Luanne. He looks like a 1940s movie actor in the photo of just him. I hope you do write about that “detour.” 😉
So, it’s strange that you posted about military service because my daughter has been Googling family members, and she found something that my uncle had written about his military service during the Korean War. (He was in a MASH unit for a while.) Apparently, a friend urged him to write it down. I sent the link to my cousin who had never seen it, but he asked me if I knew it was the second anniversary of his dad’s passing, or was it just a coincidence that I sent it that day. Ooooo!
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Doesn’t he though?! I’m sure my mother-in-law thought he had movie star looks when she met him! I will write about the detour–just trying to see if I can get any more info or not.
How exciting to find that your uncle had written about his service! And, WOW, what a so-called coincidence (not) that it was the anniversary! I do not believe events like that are coincidences at all.
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